DOGE 10 MK3 – Silver Version – The “killer” integrated on the market at $1,999

    DOGE 10 MK3 – Silver Version – The “killer” integrated on the market at $1,999

    (21 customer reviews)

    $1,999.0

    One of the most innovative integrated tube amplifiers worldwide. A unique Dual Class mode coupled with autobias managed by a microprocessor.  All this is completed with extremely high-grade output transformers for an incredible sound performance.

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    I really like the following Thomas’ statement about our Doge10:

    After making videos for many years, my goal was always to find that gem”

    And if you watch again the full 20mn video “Doge 10 is an Unicorn” video below on that page, you will see he says EXACTLY the same as what he says about his Galion TS120. 

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    SADLY, my management has decided to refocus on OEM against Doge own brand.

    My boss Mr. Liu is 70 and obviously direct sales weren’t in his DNA and he loves OEM.

    I forgive him for this, even though I feel sad for our customers

    to have to pay for our products at higher prices with third-party brands.

    you can easily understand that under the pressure of Mr. Thomas Tan to avoid Doge10 to compete with his Galion TS120, which is 95% based on Doge10, Doge management has sadly decided to put on standby Doge 10 production for at least all of the year 2023 to avoid the Doge10 with its lower price to compete with Thomas’ Galion. Politics always…  Though even recently, Thomas told me he didn’t like politics…

    This said I DO RECOMMEND buying the Galion TS120 (standard) instead of the DOGE 10 MK3 and the price is pretty fair knowing it includes import duties (25% in the US) and shipping to your front door.

    This is absolutely sincere and not any sarcastic statement. Galion TS120 is based on Doge10 and has a few improvements included in the price, how could it be a bad deal? The GALION TS120 Standard IS A GOOD DEAL at A GOOD PRICE. Furthermore, Doge10 MK4 is on backorder until 2024. It is not worth waiting.

    I just recommend you to check carefully if Thomas sells his amp as a private individual or as a corporation since it is the only website worldwide that has no “about” section to describe his company, capital, date of incorporation, company ID, address…

    And as we can’t do comments on Doge 10 MK4 that won’t be there before a year at the very least, we can just make comments about his interestingly cloned+improved Doge 10 version called Galion TS120, and it does perform well, slightly above Doge 10 and again fairly priced.

    Regarding reliability, it will be the same as Doge 10 as it uses the same PCB, the same components, and is assembled by the same workers. However, as sometimes the autobias need a few tips, you will have the opportunity to have to deal with a native English speaker, either in English, French, or Chinese, as Thomas speaks all these languages.

    Why we can only recommend the GALION TS120 standard at $3495 ?

    First as said above if you includes additional components, shipping and import duty (if it really does include import duties as Thomas says as some areas are delivered directly from our factory)

    Secondly, it is an extremely well-performing amplifier as fully designed by Doge Electronics Ltd and mainly based on Doge10. So it has all the quality of Doge 10 and a few extras. We added a separate transformer for input tubes exactly as we did for the LUA Sinfonia in 2008. Please do not believe it is any Thomas idea. We are the designer. Thomas just took fun tweaking coupling caps. Doing so, he even asked Jupiter for special caps, not released yet, for capacitors that are purposed to BLOCK the audio signal. Believe it or not, he put $60 for special caps to block the audio signal. OMG.

     

    Here are the two capacitors said “build for me” by Jupiter they had not even brought to market

    Just look at our schmitt phase inverter where stand these famous “special design” caps for those having a little electric knowledge. Those who don’t can skip.

    The good way for the signal is the red stroke. The alternative way that the signal could take is the pink color way and then go to the grid and disturb the normal way of the signal and create distortion by reinjecting the signal to the grid.

    The C2 cap, “specially designed for him” let the DC current pass to the grid but blocks the audio signal creating a bypass to the ground. Only audio signal who is AC signal goes to the ground (so disappears) and the DC is blocked so doesn’t go to the ground (the purpose of a cap is to block DC and let AC pass through). This is a 100% evidence that Thomas put an expensive cap whose purpose is to block the audio signal and absolutely not in the pass of the audio signal so can’t have any influence on the sound. 100% scientific. 100% terrific. 

    His (his/our) amp is good, but Thomas is so ignorant about electronics. After reading this, he will question Mr. Liu and you will see in the next production in September he will move back to $1 caps which are absolutely enough. For those having ordered already don’t worry. It won’t disturb anything. You have just paid for something useless, nothing more serious than that.

    Of course, the text on his website will disappear soon so I put a screenshot of March 12th as evidence of his poor knowledge and secondary evidence that he didn’t design anything in it and even his caps choice are random.

    Let’s go back to the Galion TS120 performances.

    Galion TS120 goes slightly above the Doge 10 MK3, I don’t deny it, as of course, it has one additional transformer, but if my management didn’t block me, under Thomas’ pressure, for the MK4 version release, of course, the Doge 10 MK4 would have overtaken the TS120. But I have no date to give you, and frankly, I am not even sure it will be produced again. If Thomas’ sales are robust, as our manufacturing capabilities are modest, there is a big chance that Doge 10 will be discontinued.

    Thomas did a great job pushing Mr Liu to find slight improvements on Doge 10. As Chinese blood and Chinese speaking, contrary to me, he succeeded to put pressure and pressure on Mr Liu to “how can you improve the Doge10”. Finally, Mr. Liu found a place to add between many wires the same kind of extra transformer he added on the Lua Sinfonia in 2008 when Mr. Lua asked the same question. Mr. Liu is also against tone controls. He never designed any tone control for Lua or Jolida, so Thomas was successful to have put pressure on him to design this tone control. Regarding the other settings, he just used what I taught him during we were friends as I taught Thomas a lot about caps. He even shows some of my drawings in his videos.

    Just look below.

    This is me who taught this to Thomas through this drawing after a phone in which I realized he was confused about that topic. He didn’t even say “thanks to Marc for the drawing”, but instead “a buddy sent me this drawing”. Surely this video will shunt down soon to erase this. Surely this video will shunt down soon to erase this.

     

    Let’s come back about TS120 purchase.

    OK, I guess what you will say: “the standard edition is fairly priced but I wish the SE Edition!!

    Come on, don’t believe in marketing! Indeed, I remind you that the SE version is nothing else than a standard version with tweaked coupling caps like on the picture below. Absolutely not any other mods like the electronic diagram, PCB or any other upgrade of components. Just an upgrade of four coupling caps for $1000. Period. As evidence, you won’t find any technical explanation on the website about the differences between the two versions. Having internal pictures of TS120, I am not even 99% sure of what I say, but 110% sure. He makes it as a secret only because the capacitors’ price increase is very far from the $1000 difference between the two versions.

    OMG, I was going to be so unfair with Thomas. I forgot to mention the SE has an extremely important additional tweak. Two piano-painted wood plates on the sides. Sorry for that forgetting 🙂 it is so important for sound performance 🙂

     

    In conclusion, just buy the standard edition which is fairly priced (did I say the SE isn’t fairly priced? I don’t think I said this :-)) and give it an even better sound than the SE edition tweaking it yourself in a better way than Thomas did with the SE. I can bet the tweak I recommend will be a standard in the near future after he will have ended his SE first-generation inventory, or will become a VSE (very special edition) version 🙂

    So below this are what you pay $1000 in SE, the four Clarity red caps at around and the two Jupiter Alu bypass caps in comparison to the Clarity ESA (on the second picture) that we love and that Sonus Farber speaker factory uses on his $20,000 speakers’ crossovers. Bypassing the Clarity ESA with Jupiter silver PIO gives better results than bypassing the Clarity CMR with the Jupiter alu PIO of the SE.

    On the picture, one question raised my attention for weeks. Thomas bypassed for four Clarity CMR by only two Jupiter Vitamin ALU PIO 10nF, so two caps over four caps. Why only two caps are bypassed instead of the four? total mystery. On merely a technical approach it would be a scientific nonsense, like if you put two different brands of KT88 on the same channel. But everybody wants matched tubes matched. But coupling caps on SE version are unmatched. Genius tip or mistake, impossible to know. Sometimes listening reserves surprises. If genius tip, greetings to Thomas, if not you we discover immediately by small listening fatigue over two hours.

    Thomas spent a lot of time on it but has no technical knowledge. And ears don’t replace technique. A better tweaking than the one done in the SE version is possible. It will cost you $319 in parts and around $100 in labor (the Jupiter Vitamin ALU is $21 whereas the Jupiter vitamin is $79, BUT so much better. Just buy 4 Jupiter Vitamin 10nF Silver PIO, instead of paying the $1000 extra SE with Jupiter Vitamin Alu PIO which are really a small part of the extra $1000 expense of SE Edition, then bring the standard TS120 to any repair shop that will take 20mn to solder them) and you will definitely love it!!

    And don’t mislead my words. I am not talking of making you save money doing DIY versus the finished SE version. I tell you about improving significantly the TS120 SE edition for $400 over the standard edition price like in the picture below.

     

    PLEASE, DON’T ASK THOMAS WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT THIS. HE ALREADY STOLE ME THE DOGE10 WHICH I CO-DESIGNED WITH MR LIU, WITHOUT ANY ROYALTIES, SO DON’T EXPECT ANY OBJECTIVE REPLY FROM HIM. HE WOULD JUST SAY THAT “SILVER MEANS NOTHING” AND “ONLY LISTENING” IS THE KEY ISSUE. SO THAT WOULD MEAN JUPITER SELL SILVER VITAMIN 10nF 4 times the ALU PIO FOR NOTHING?? HE WILL REPEAT THAT DOGE IS NOT QUALIFIED FOR CAP CHOICE AS THEY DESIGN ONLY BASED ON MEASUREMENT (which is half true half wrong. Mr Liu does not listen, but I do in my home).  THE TRUTH IS THAT THE JUPITER VITAMIN SILVER CAP IS SUPER EXPENSIVE, 4 TIMES THE JUPITER VITAMIN SILVER CAP, SO WHEN THE REVIEWER BECOMES A BUSINESSMAN, PROFIT MARGIN GOES FIRST. THEN IF YOU ARGUE A BIT DEEPER HE WILL TELL THAT DOING SO WILL MAKE THE WARRANTY VOID.  SO JUST PUSH HIM AND TELL HIM YOU WILL MAKE IT BY A SPECIALIZED SHOP AND IF HE BYPASSES THE SE VERSION WHY DOING BYPASS ON STANDARD COULD DAMAGE THE AMP.

     

    Our German Beta tester Jürgen has tried the tweak I recommend you on the Galion TS120. He did this tweak on this Doge 10. He said it was incredible (read his feedback below). You will save $600 compared to the SE edition and get better sound. Just read Jurgen’s email sent just after his first listenings without break-in the caps:

    “Hi Marc,

    I’ve got the capacitors today and installed them already. After one-hour listening session I can only say: Absolutely great!!! Haven’t ever heard anything better! THIS IS IT!!! I am absolutely amazed. Great work. Thank you so much for sharing with me and giving me the chance to change. I will leave a feedback related the Doge 10 MKIII.
    Please continue your great work! Regards to your team as well.
    Best regards Jürgen”
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    TO BUY THESE JUPITER BYPASS CAPS:
    FOR DOGE 10 OWNERS of all versions, YOU CAN DO THE SAME.
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    When Doge 10 was released we got a great review from Thomas at that time only reviewer and not Galion’s brand owner, a kind of video called “rave review”, but willing to promote its Galion TS120 which is 95% a clone of Doge 10 even slightly improved, but still a clone, he has shunted it down.

    Thomas was naive enough not to think we made a backup. Even though it is heavier to host it directly from our server, we really wish to recall you how heavily Thomas insisted on Doge10 basses and an incredible sound stage.

    When you listen to Thomas to speak about the 3D holographic sound stage about Galion, he just repeats 100% identically what he said on Doge10. So funny how he “marteking-ly” talks about “his” Galion as if TS120 features were unique and were created by him whereas what he says is exactly the same about Doge10.

    We put a few shortcut sentences below. The funniest was that Thomas insisted a lot about the crazy basses never seen before on a tube amp. And for the TS120 the basses seem like coming from nowhere.

    On Messenger chat application, (I still have it), Thomas told me he considered the standard Edition as 5% better than Doge 10 and the SE Edition has 10% better than Doge 10. The similar mod we did on TS120 as we did in LUA Sinfonia in 2008, adding a separate transformer for the input tubes, might have indeed slightly improved the basses. But these great basses are a KEY FEATURE of Doge 10. So expect significantly greater basses, but nothing revolutionary on the TS120 about basses compared to Doge10 basses. As Thomas wrote to me, expect 5% better basses. Just watch again the video and he says the Doge 10 slap his Accuphase at $12,000.

    I challenge Thomas to make a blind test with many people in Montreal between TS120 and MK4 sample.  

     

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    DOGE 10 is an awesome KT88 push-pull delivering 60W RMS in class AB and 40W in class A.

    The reviewers have loved it, here a selection of the key sentences they say about Doge 10:

     “After making videos for many years, my goal was always to find that gem” (Thomas’ sentence at 23’05” from Thomas & Stereo Youtube channel). You can watch the review below.

    “It is unique as although 100% tube amp, it has the advantages of the solid-state amps + the benefits of the tube world.” (Quote of Mark Scott in Thomas & Stereo third video with Mark S. as guest testing MK2 version https://youtu.be/YeG1IIV_Iq0)

    Our customers who already own this amplifier gave us so much positive feedbacks and comparisons with other brands they previously owned, that we consider it regarding customer’s reviews, as one of the best-integrated tube amplifiers on the market for its price not to say THE BEST.

    You might find some KT88 amps from China at $1099, sometimes even $899 without remote, sometimes with a pretty good appearance,… but none will offer such sound performance, so many features, and last but not least, such reliability as Doge 10. Our Doge 10 compares favorably with amps in the range of $4000 to $6000. 

    We are so so happy with this MK3 version that we have discontinued the Doge 9 monoblocks as we thought they didn’t over-perform Doge 10 anymore and we wanted our flagship to go one step further. So we sincerely think it is the best amp designed by our company, included the German LUA models sold under OEM cooperation at prices up to $8,000 (retail, in brick and mortar German shops).

     

    The main differences between Doge 10 MK3 and previous versions:

    After the first review of Thomas & Stereo who was highly impressed by Doge 10 3D sound stage, but found Doge 10 warmth in between tubes and solid-states, we have totally revisited the negative feedback of Doge 10 to keep the same 3D stage but have further warmth and silkiness. The sound improvement is really significant and DOGE 10 MK3 will really make you cry of emotion on your favorite tracks which was the only thing Thomas regretted on MK1 version.

    1) Improved sound performance, more warmth more emotion, some micro-details you will realize you have never heard before, AND a still incredibly huge 3D sound stage.

    2) Class A reaches now 45W.

    3) an LFE Subwoofer output mono & stereo, which requires an isolation system to avoid rejection of signal into the tubes. Whereas it is something very simple and current in the solid-state world. Most tube amplifiers on the market having subwoofer outputs are priced at least $3,599.

    4) Doge 10 MK3 has a “pre-in” input, in case for example you want to drive Doge 10 by the pre-out of your HT amplifier. Please don’t mistake HT bypass which is a feature only in the preamp and not on integrated. HT bypass doesn’t exist on integrated amps.

    5) Compared to the MK1 version, the MK3 is more musical, less solid-state colored (which was a bit too Chinese taste), warmer but without being caricatural tubish. The basses go even further.

    6) Doge 10 MK3 is offered in full black color OR in silver.

    7) Note: Why do we have many new features like PRE-IN or SUB-OUT and not XLR inputs???  Simple: 99% of the input stages of the tubes amplifier works in class A single-ended. So if we add an XLR input, that would mean we would have to unbalanced immediately it before we send it to the potentiometer. Be careful of all devices that have XLR.

    XLR input or output doesn’t mean either “balanced unit” or “fully balanced” unit. XLR is just a format of jack connector. XLR connections have interest only with fully balanced devices and 80% that you believe as fully balanced are not.

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    We had a nice 22mn video about Doge 10 from Thomas & Stereo, a kind of video called “rave review”, but willing to promote its Galion TS120 which is 95% a clone of Doge 10, he shunted it down. However, you can still watch the sum-up above in which he said it is the Gem he expected to find in his life. And you can easily understand it was a Gem as he almost cloned it.

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    BUT, and it is important BUT:

    The video above was the review of the MK1 version and was already regarded as awesome. The MK3 is significantly improved.

    The review of Thomas & Stereo, for those who are followers of Youtube reviews, is nicknamed a “rave review”. That means Thomas fell in love with Doge 10 to make simple.  Here is the feedback let by Jurgen N. from Germany, which you can also read in the customers’ review section. He was one of the first Doge 10 MK1 owners and got the privilege to get a DG10 MK2 customized with the same schematic as MK3, so he is the first customer worldwide to have listened to the MK3 version:

    “After owning the Doge 10 MK1 version now for almost a year, I was able to upgrade to the newest MK3 version with the great support of Marc. Thank you for this. I can clearly say that it is a great sonic improvement with the MK3. The sound is more holographic, more detailed and smoother than compared to the MK1. But I could have lived with the MK1 version as well, because it is also great. At the end it is all a matter of taste and own preferences. The Doge 10 is truly high-end HiFi gear and it is hard to get better without spending a fortune. It is one of the best HiFi equipment if ever owned. Thank you so much Doge team!”

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    Reviewers warned us not to compliment ourselves as we are not objective and let them do it. However, I, Marc, sales manager, having to distribute around 15 Chinese brands in my past job and being in China Hifi since now almost 15 years, I can say it is the best-integrated amp I have ever heard in this range of price. (I heard Japanese brands, US brands…).

    It really gave me chills and have at the same time plenty of micro-details I never heard before and deep sound stage and sickness close as triodes. In a comparison video with Cayin CS55 and R8 (https://youtu.be/YeG1IIV_Iq0), Thomas said if you want to cry you should choose the Cayin or the R8. This remark pushed us to revise Doge 10 and make it finally the most emotional of the three, keeping the same highest 3D sound stage (we bought the R8 and the Cayin to compare the sound performance and design the MK3). So it is not just a “we are the best”, we listened to our competitors and we made DOGE MK3 the best.

    I can tell you and already warned Thomas who didn’t hear yet the MK3, to prepare packages of Kleenex, and let’s prepare yourself to cry listening to your most emotional tracks!!!

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    Doge 10 come with awesome comprehensive features

    • Doge PAB (Precision Auto-Bias) a computer-manager autobias
    • Doge DUAL CLASS mode, a computer-managed feature to switch from class AB to true Class A
    • Doge FLS (Feedback Loop Selector) for better speaker matching and tone control
    • Doge APM (Auto Protection Mode) to shutdown automatically the amp and protect your speakers if something wrong happens inside the amp.
    • Doge DTI (Dead Tube Indicator)
    • A sophisticated Soft-Start
    • A Ground Noise Reduction switch
    • A comprehensive remote controller made in a single piece of 18mm aluminum
    • Turn-on/turn-off function from the remote controller. Very convenient

    Doge 10 is a KT88 push-pull integrated amplifier. it can be used with 6550 as well. However, it can’t use the KT150, and KT170 tubes. It can use the KT120 from Shuguang or Psvane but the Russian KT120s from Tungsol have an extremely high rate of unstable grid voltage with unstable impedance and many of Tungsol KT120 could be recognized as defective by our DTI, so our processor will block them to preserve the safety of Doge 10. If you use KT120, please source them from Tube Amp Doctor or Upscale Audio only.

    It can deliver 60 Watts RMS per channel in class AB and it goes to 45W in class A. Most of you probably know that true class A has less efficiency in counterpart it improves the sound performance.

    To sum up, the Doge 10 design concept, is we wanted to put the best of our technology and put in the best components, most of them imported. First of all, the key component is a pair of very high-standard output transformers with high-range Z10 core steel. Definitely, you can’t have a high-end amp without premium-grade output transformers. For other components we use Nippon Chemicon electrolytic capacitors, Japanese potentiometer ALPS “blue velvet” matched at 1% precision, German OMRON gold-plated relays,…  And last but not least, you would be surprised if you were comparing the signal cable we use and those of well-known brands. Our signal cable is a very expensive silver-PTFE with shielding. We put attention to any single detail, like shielding even the inputs board with the relays.

    CLARITYCAPS

    In any amplifier, a key component is the coupling capacitor as the signal pass through it. On Doge 10 we use UK high-end audiophile-grade coupling capacitor Claritycaps ‘ESA’ model, which we use in our famous Doge 8 Clarity preamp. We have been so impressed by their sound performance that we installed them on all our products. As a reference among many, the Italian speakers brand Sonus Farber uses them for their crossover in their $25,000 speakers

     

    DUAL-CLASS MODE

    We are proud to have introduced on the tube amps market in 2014 a totally new technology, the “Dual Class mode”. This is an exclusive feature of DOGE. Believe it or not, you really can’t find anywhere else worldwide on a tube amp !! ?

    After the launch in 2011 of our patented Doge PAB Autobias, our microprocessor is now able to manage different levels of voltage and anode current. With Doge 10, you will be able to choose between class A and class AB within the same amplifier. It is really like having two amplifiers in one, making it very versatile for different types of speakers and even music.

    What is really different with Doge DUAL CLASS mode, compared with what you can read on our competitors’ websites, is that our class A is not what others call “floating class A”, which says for example their amp is in class A between 0 to 10W and then class B from 10W to 50W, etc…

    Such descriptions are for marketing purposes because an amplifier is either in class A or not. Period. True class A must have a very high anode current going through the tubes, whether you are at minimum power or maximum power. That’s the reason in class A we have programmed our microprocessor to set the anode current at a very high value to deliver a true class A with only 0.06% distortion, which is extremely low and extremely rare for a tube amp. For reference, 95% of KT88 amps have anode current from 25mA to 50mA. To be able to supply this high current to the tubes, the PADC microprocessor changes the main power voltage and the anode current (in class AB we have 50mA which is already in the highest standards). This is a process that requires around 45 seconds. That’s the reason only Doge 10 can say it is at the same time true class A and class AB, because you can’t use both at the same time.

    To be more practical as ampers are not familiar to most of you, in class AB the KT88 tubes get a 510V anode voltage, whereas in class A the KT88 tubes get a 460V anode voltage because it couldn’t have at the same time a high voltage and high current, which is the reason the max power is limited at 40W in class A. 

    Now some of you might think “why not do class A only if class A is a must?” Well, it is not that simple. Because class A in a push-pull design will have less distortion it might sound slightly less warm and, depending on everyone’s ears or tastes, some will prefer this lower distortion sound as very pure and neutral and some will prefer class AB, very “tubish” style. For some orchestral performances or live performances, depending on tastes and systems, class AB might sound better. On voices, class A might sound better. Finally, depending on your style of music and personal taste you might like one class better and this class might not be the same for everyone, as everyone taste is different and you, only, can decide which one you prefer and you might sometimes be willing to change according to the style of music you listen. Even in Doge team opinions are shared. Sales manager prefer class AB whereas the designer prefers class A. So versatility is important. John Ford said in 1905 about his Ford T: “you can choose any color you wish since it’s black” and finally GM got the lead offering color choice.

    We really make our best to make Doge 10 be one of the most versatile tube amp ever designed, as something you never saw before. We didn’t even want to give this PADC feature to our German OEM ex-partner LUA as it is really “our baby” and knowing you can see it only on Doge and if some of you might think we are the ones who cloned our OEM partner designs, it is the evidence all amplifiers manufactured by Doge, either on Doge brand or LUA brand are designed by Doge only (though a few customizations asked by LUA, mainly adding fuses everywhere).

    What about the reliability of using a microprocessor in a tube amp?

    Since we launched our first generation of Autobias in mid-2011, we have never had any break-down of our microprocessor, which is a very well-proven STT unit (ST Microelectronics-Thomson). 

    If you want to take a break before going further into technical explanations, you can watch Doge 10 in one of our customer’s systems. We think it interesting to show you this video as at least 5 customers reported to us an awesome match between Doge 10 and the Tekton speakers we have no idea technically why, but in case you need to buy new speakers as well, you can’t be wrong with matching Doge 10 with Tekton’s (and we have no commission on Tekton sales 🙂 )

     

     

    Any designer would have stopped here, but we still wanted more! So we created the FLS (Feedback Loop selector) function. Although you find now this feature and a few other brands (really just a few), we were among the firsts to do it if not the first. Almost all amplifiers have a negative feedback loop, which in two words means the amplifier re-inject a little part of the output signal into the input stage to make it more stable. In the 60’s this was considered as an improvement. But after some years have passed, many audiophiles consider the “zero feedback” as “the nirvana”, but this kind of electronic diagram requires ultra-stable speakers as it lowers the damping factor. Our point of view is we don’t know which speakers will be used with our Doge 10, so we preferred to do a design it with a feedback loop, but to let the user the choice of the strength of this feedback loop.

    We offer three choices, normal, medium, and low. Normal is what you find in most amplifiers on the market, whereas “low mode” is close to the zero feedback loop’s amps. This choice is to make upon your taste after listening, and “low” mode still keeps a little feedback to keep the amplifier stable and a good damping factor.

     

    THE POWER STAGE

    A good amplifier starts with a good power section.

    To supply the correct amount of power in particular in class A, we use a huge power transformer and a “Pi filtering” with a huge choke of 1H/1A.

    A “Pi” filtering (CLC) is an association of an electrolytic capacitor, followed by a choke for filtering and a second electrolytic capacitor. On Doge 10 we have 235µF before and 500µF after the choke, so a total of 735µF !! It is an incredible source of energy. You will have at the same time a super silent power and firm and incredible basses even at Pmax. As far as we know it is highest value for KT88 push-pull in integrated below $10K.

    A big choke has a cost similar to a transformer, in particular, if like us, you use premium Z10 core steel. That’s the reason many manufacturers in the low or medium range, don’t use choke or make it very small. To make an explanation by image, we have chosen the internal picture from the integrated amp of a brand worldwide famous at $3,590. You can see the difference in size and construction quality of their choke, no need to add other explanations. To avoid any scale trick we have circled the ALPS potentiometer as we share this same component to show we use the same scale on both photos. 

    Making this explanation we don’t intend do mean that amps without choke have bad sound (we don’t make secret we don’t use on our Doge 5 at $1K, for example, to make it more affordable), and that doesn’t mean either that amps with smaller choke have necessarily bad sound, but, we wanted to point out we really put very high quality and expensive components inside Doge 10 and its smart design combined with high range components both together make an incredible sound! it is also visible on the scale with 29Kg unpacked.

     

     

    Compared to our first generation of PAB Autobias from 2011, we have put all the tubes LEDs on the front panel in order to make that the tube sockets area doesn’t look like a “Christmas tree”, and instead, we put a nice anodized aluminum plate. So everything can be controlled from the front panel.

    We supply a sophisticated protection cage that holds with strong magnets (enough strength for kids’ hands) so the appearance is elegant no visible holes on the chassis and no screws on the grid.

    It has a very holographic sound stage, we could say a 3D sound stage. Its ultra-low distortion rate makes that you can listen for hours without feeling tired. The basses are particularly firm and dynamic.

     

    WHAT ABOUT ITS VALUE?

    We want to let you know that the Doge 10 has been tested in the German STEREO magazine under model name LUA Sinfonia at $6500. It got the mark of 92% and 4 stars for the price value. You might think, and that would make sense, that probably this model shares the same schematics with the Doge 10 but certainly, the German partner put higher range components in it?

    WRONG !

    The LUA Sinfonia uses very reliable (and sonically decent), but industrial, Wima coupling capacitors whereas our audiophiles grade UK Claritycaps are 10 times the price of the Wimas. You can also note the number of connectors required by Mr. Lua whereas our Doge 10 use soldering only for perfect conduction and avoid any loose contact. We want clearly claim our own brand DOGE products are higher standards than our OEM German products. And you can understand why Doge 10 is a true bargain compared to the 5900€ of the Sinfonia!

     

     

    With NOS tubes worth $2500 that you can buy by yourself for cheaper it was ranked 95%

     

    We are fully aware that considering the German price, we could have priced Doge 10 at higher levels. Our first goal was we really wanted you to be able to enjoy it even for audiophiles with moderate income. 

     

    TUBES POLICY

    For KT88: We supply Doge 10 with the Psvane KT88-C. It is an incredible tube, one of the best on the market not to say the best with the Russian Gold Lion. It has exactly the same internal architecture and internal components as KT88-TII except the gray coating on the glass which in our opinion is more marketing than scientific 🙂 

    For INPUT TUBES:

    VERY GOOD NEWS: We are pleased to announce that Doge 10 is now supplied automatically with upgraded tubes. Our historical partner Shuguang Tube factory is closed until spring 2022 so we inquired about new supplies and we made a partnership with the german brand TAD (Tube Amp Doctor) which is the biggest tube dealer worldwide and make his own brand of tubes which are in fact tubes manufactured by the main tube companies, but with very severe sorting done in TAD german Labs. Only the best 20% tubes are selected to become a “TAD Premium Selected” tubes.

    What makes a preamp tube become a TAD PREMIUM SELECTED?

    All preamp tubes labeled Premium Selected have passed the following tests:
    –      Low Noise Test
    –      Microphonic Test
    –      Gain Test
    –      Sonic Tests
    –      Shock Tests
    –      Listening Tests
    –      Balanced Output Test

    If you have already your own tubes or you want to choose other models you can order without tubes.

     

    THE SAFETY PACK OPTION

    We provide the warranty service in your country as it is easy to find some repair shops. However, we provide a tube warranty in China, which means you need to send back any potential defective tube during warranty time and pay the shipping cost for return. We don’t make a secret that in practical, except for those crazy of packing, it means almost no warranty.

    To avoid any frustration about potential failure, which is rare but can occur even a few days after the delivery, we offer a “safety pack option” that includes one spare part of each of the tubes. If you want more details about the Safety Pack, please click here.

     

    PRICE POLICY

    Factory-direct price: once you will have added the product with the relevant options to the cart (without prior need to register) you will be asked to fill your country and see our total price with includes delivery to your front door, Paypal or CC fees, and one year warranty served in your country. If you pay by bank transfer or Wise.com transfer you will get 5% discount as neither our bank nor Wise.com charges us any fees (use coupon code “bankwise”).

    Possible taxes and import duties in your country are at your charge.

    Please note that for safety reasons according to international air freight regulations, remote controllers are not supplied with batteries. We use AA batteries type. Please plan to purchase some prior to the delivery.

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    SET-UP YOUR DOGE 10

    This unpacking video is made by our sales manager in Thailand. (The local habits prohibit wearing shoes inside the homes. It is on purpose you see him feet naked).

    It shows how to install tubes, how to set the bias through bias reset button, and to change of class mode.

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    GALLERY

    DOGE 10 deserves the best speakers…

    Tubes componentsKT88 x4, 12AX7 x2, 12AT7 x2
    Rated Power in class AB60W RMS per channel.
    Rated Power in class A45W RMS per channel.
    RCA Line inputs4
    RCA Pre-in (HT bypass)1
    RCA Subwoofer mono LFE1
    RCA Subwoofer Stereo LFE1
    Subwoofer switch mono to stereoYES
    RCA Tape-out (Line-out)1
    Remote controllerYES
    Type of remote controllerLuxury black aluminum
    Bandwidth15Hz to 60KHz
    Signal to noise ratio (S/N)>92db (in class A)
    THD in Class A<0.06% at 30W
    THD in class AB<0.15% at 60W
    stand-by modeYES
    Class Mode SelectorYES
    Feedback loop selectorYES
    Auto-protection modeYES
    Soft-Start modeYES
    Ground Noise KillerYES
    Input impedance50K ohms
    Input sensitivity420mV
    Output impedance2 x 8 ohms + 2 x 4 ohms
    BiasPAB autobias new generation
    Size in InchesW:17″ x D:15.4″ x H: 8.7″
    Size in metricsW:43cm x D:39cm H: 22cm
    Weight in Pounds63 lbs + packing
    Weight in KG29kg + packing
    VoltageDepending on your country 110V, 120V, 220V, 230V, 240V
    Warranty1 year for electronics, 3 months for vacuum tubes

    12 reviews for DOGE 10 MK3 – Silver Version – The “killer” integrated on the market at $1,999

    1. Juergen Neutz

      After owning the Doge 10 MK1 version now for almost a year, I was able to upgrade to the newest MK3 version with the great support of Marc with a factory upgrade plan. Thank you for this Marc. I can clearly say that it is a great sonic improvement with the MK3. The sound is more holographic, more detailed and smoother than compared to the MK1. But I could have lived with the MK1 version as well, because it is also great. At the end it is all a matter of taste and own preferences. The Doge 10 is truly high-end HiFi gear and it is hard to get better without spending a fortune. It is one of the best HiFi equipment if ever owned. Thank you so much Doge team!

    2. HermieD

      I am absolutely happy with my Doge 10 Mk2-B – it is the best money I have spent on audio. This amp is very transparent and musical, and I find myself just enjoying my music more and listening longer. My journey looking for an amp ends here – this is all I need!

      Marc and the Doge team have been excellent to deal with, in spite of their sudden fame. The shipping was fast, and the amp was well protected.

      -Hermie Doering

    3. Mark Scott (verified owner)

      My first experience with the Doge 10 was during a two-week period at Christmas 2020. I live nearby Thomas, the Thomas and Stereo HiFi reviewer and he generously allows me to evaluate multiple pieces of HiFi gear each month. However, when I evaluated the Doge 10, I fell in love.

      It gracefully combines the smoothness, transparency, and holographic sound of a high-end tube amp, with power and dynamics of a solid state – the blend of both in one amp is an incredibly engaging experience. Thomas had lent me a set of Tube Onyx mono block amps for the month of March 2021 – I loved those mono blocks as well, the smooth sound was beautiful, but it lacked the deep snapping bass and dynamics I experienced with the Doge 10.

      I love the features of the amp, including the Class A, Class A/B setting and most of all the Feedback Mode selector that lets you fine tune the sound for your speakers – set at Low the sound with my Klipsch Forte III speakers is smooth, still precise, and holographic.

      After evaluating countless amps (including prior to meeting Thomas) no amplifier, tube of solid state has satisfied me to the point the Doge 10 does. That cold day in January when I returned the Doge 10 to Thomas, I immediately ordered my own, and now happy to have it sitting in my living-room.

      The Doge team, particularly Marc, have been very responsive, courteous, and kept me up to date on progress – the massive amount of interest in Doge has resulted in a wait time – but I can assure you it’s well worth the wait.

      Here’s a link to the guest review video that I did on the Thomas and Stereo YouTube channel:
      https://youtu.be/20dVE-CjCP4

      – Mark Scott

    4. Albert

      Hi Team Doge

      I probably now have over 80hrs running time on the Doge 10 MkII. Sound seems to have settled in nicely.

      Man, this integrated really is special. It just conveys the emotions in the music so easily. I mean when’s the last time you got goose bumps listening to music? Or almost tears in your eyes?

      With the Doge 10 it just keeps happening – time and again. Enough said!!

    5. NELSON LEVINE

      Marc,

      just a quick note about the Doge 10 that i received a few weeks ago. Wanted to let you know what a pleasant surprise this amp has been. For this amount of money the build quality is amazing. The first thing I noticed was the complete lack of any hiss or any sound at all coming through the speakers when there was no music playing. I have a few other tube amps and that definitely isn’t true for any of them and actually that would include some solid state amps that I own as well. The second thing I wanted to let you know about was that though there are many things I prefer about the sound of tube amps over solid state, like that round, three dimensional character of the imaging for one, however, bass extension and tightness isn’t one of them. The Doge 10 though still doesn’t quite have the punch to my solar plexus like my other solid state (some class A B and a pair of class D mono blocks) amps do but, I was surprised at how much of that experience you do get from this amp. With some tube rolling I could probably get even closer though in terms of my daily listening I have felt like I was not missing out very much and what It does produce is very enjoyable. I still can’t get over how all this comes with a price tag that usually one would have to spend quite a lot more for. So I just wanted to share some of my initial impressions with you as I’m sure as their rep you would like to hear about. Now we’ll have to see about that DAC soon.

      Nelson Levine

    6. Mike Goppert (Timbre Dynamics)

      The Doge 10 integrated tube amp delivers outstanding performance with a large spacious soundstage, precise imaging, and outstanding detail. I received the unit last week and have already listened to it for more than 40 hours. It came packaged very well and Marc was quick to respond with any questions I had. Everything worked out great. If you can be patient, it is well worth it.

      I have this paired with a Doge 7 DAC. The pairing seems to be very good. I bought Gold Lion KT88s and Tong-Sol 12AX7s and 12AT7s. I’m very happy with these tubes so far and I am looking forward to hearing what they will evolve top over the next 100 to 200 hours.

      I have put together a few videos if you are interested to hear more about my experience.

      Doge 10 Thoughts
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN8_cbzf4bA

      Doge 10 Sound Demo
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eK2cFIyXkY

    7. daniel griffiths

      It took 5 months but worth the wait, the buying process wasn’t easy as Doge was overwhelmed with orders. Mine is the MK2-B and compared to my IOTAVX SA3 it is lively and detailed but still well rounded. Admittedly the Iota is more entry level. Doge 10 paired well to my Acoustic Energy AE509 speakers, previously they sounded slightly reserved. The biggest surprise has been the bass, I did not expect the deep and powerful bass. This is even before the REL T7i is added with no problems on the high level input. Upgraded to the Telefunken smooth plates input stage valves/tubes but haven’t A/B tested against others. All in all very happy, the sound and quality are everything I expected, even after the hype. Quite an achievement.

    8. David Eng

      The doge 10 version b is an absolute gem, full body sound with amazing holographic sound stage, great craftsmanship on build. I have had technics, Fischer, kenwood , naim, McIntosh amps- this doge is easily the equal or superior to them. If you had to buy one , the Doge 10 should be your choice. Easy setup out of box, impeccable packaging for shipping. Plus Marc is a great contact person for any questions.

    9. Jeff Cummings

      I purchased the Doge 10 MKII late last year and I love it. It’s dynamic and the soundstage is great. I’m driving a pair of Fyne 500’s, and it’s been such a joy to have in our room. The combo is great as we don’t have to be sitting exactly in the sweet spot to enjoy it. The sound fills the room. It has plenty of power with speakers that aren’t super efficient. I’ve also tried out my KEF LS50 and Buchardt S400’s and they all sounded great with the Doge 10 (even though each has their own sound). I’ve done some tube rolling, but it’s not necessary in my opinion. I’ve been tempted to change the caps based on what Thomas & Stereo said, but honestly, I love how it sounds so I don’t really want to mess with a good thing. The only thing I would say is that I find myself going back and forth between class A and A/B and can’t decide which one I prefer. I know Doge got hammered with sales after the reviews from highly regarded YouTube channels like Thomas & Stereo and Next Big Thing, but once the dust settled, Marc was super responsive to all my various questions. If you’ve been buying audio as long as I have, you know how rare that is. The Doge 10 is going to be a permanent part of my audio setup for years to come. I’m already saving up for the Doge DAC.

      Highly recommended!

    10. bh9907160

      Unmistakably a great value that punches way above its price point. I would go as far as to say that this integrated amp sounds superior than many separates, which may require much trial and error between the pre amp, interconnects and amplifier to produce the liquidity and synergy that this unit offers. Like cooking, yes, most dishes from scratch taste more authentic than most ingredients out of freezers, cans and/or jars; however, that is, If and only if, the cook has mastered the art of combining the correct ratios of ingredients at the correct place and time for perfect integration. The painstaking process has been completed with excellent execution. 9.5/10

       Don’t think, just buy!!

    11. Juergen Neutz

      The Doge 10 is a phenomenal device. I have had several amplifiers, but the Doge 10 beats them all. I can fully support the review from Thomas & Stereo. I would go even further to say that at least 80% of people who buy the device will be more than happy with it. The build quality is stunning and even so the sound. Treble, mids and base are how they should be for a high end HiFi device. It packed really great so that a save delivery is assured.
      Well done Doge team!
      I will write further comment once the break-in period is over

    12. Juergen Neutz

      The Doge 10 is a phenomenal device. I have had several amplifiers, but the Doge 10 beats them all. I can fully support the review from Thomas & Stereo. I would go even further to say that at least 80% of people who buy the device will be more than happy with it. The build quality is stunning and even so the sound. Treble, mids and base are how they should be for a high end HiFi device. It packed really great so that a save delivery is assured.
      Well done Doge team!
      I will write further comment once the break-in period is over

    13. Joseph – Pennsylvania

      Hello Doge – this is NOT an review !
      I suggest you support your products – with offers of TUBES; that connector for Doge 8 & 9 – we all know cables DO fail in time. And any other item to assure this equipment will continue working in the future.
      What occurs to me and concerns me is the BIAS control board. How long will this last? Can you make this board available? Is there anything you can think of WE may need and is not available here is the United States?
      It seems 211 tubes are very hard to find. I found TWO stores trying to sell the Natural Sound tube for nearly $1000.00 an quad – No one will pay this price – they are dreaming! I know I can contact the company in Hunan – BUT I would place TRUST in DOGE assuring WE can get MATCHED quality tubes.
      Had my Wife talk to someone in China….surprised they do not believe matching is important. Had the same experience with an company selling Treasure tubes in Canada. This problem means WE can not get tubes!
      PreAmp tubes are not an problem, what is needed is: 6CA7 and 211 tubes.

      On a side note – I request an better explanation of the FEEDBACK control on the Doge 9: normal, med/mid and low. I have top of the line Definitive Technology speakers.

      Appreciate your time and hope you like the review. Sorry I looked like a slob when I did the video

    14. Len Elias

      Found the Prima Donna Amp by following the YouTube video done by Oto. I was looking at the Tekton Design Impact Speakers (first Double Impact but my room is small so I didn’t need ‘that much speaker’. This Amp is an excellent match to to the TK Impact Speaker design- the sound stage is amazing, the Amp is so quiet during music pauses it’s almost unreal but the power is there if you want it. Combined with a decent turntable and the music comes alive. Shipping was easy with payment through PayPal. I had a few customer service questions and followed the links – responses were within hours. Overall very satisfied with the system and I’ve recommended this set up to several friends. Well done Doge!

    15. Len Elias (verified owner)

      Found the Prima Donna Amp by following the YouTube video done by Oto. I was looking at the Tekton Design Impact Speakers (first Double Impact but my room is small so I didn’t need ‘that much speaker’. This Amp is an excellent match to to the TK Impact Speaker design- the sound stage is amazing, the Amp is so quiet during music pauses it’s almost unreal but the power is there if you want it. Combined with a decent turntable and the music comes alive. Shipping was easy with payment through PayPal. I had a few customer service questions and followed the links – responses were within hours. Overall very satisfied with the system and I’ve recommended this set up to several friends. Well done Doge!

    16. Aidan (verified owner)

      —– Original Message —–
      From: aidan c.
      To: Marc / DOGE overseas sales manager
      Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 2:32 AM
      Subject: Re: Your delivery

      Hi Marc

      the Prima Donna is fantastic, the burn in done and as you said, it would sound even better!
      my vinyl sounds amazing through the amp, so much more detail in the sound.

      thanks
      Aidan

    17. Aidan

      —– Original Message —–
      From: aidan c.
      To: Marc / DOGE overseas sales manager
      Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 2:32 AM
      Subject: Re: Your delivery

      Hi Marc

      the Prima Donna is fantastic, the burn in done and as you said, it would sound even better!
      my vinyl sounds amazing through the amp, so much more detail in the sound.

      thanks
      Aidan

    18. Daniel

      —– Original Message —–
      From: Daniel
      To: Marc / DOGE overseas sales manager
      Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 7:22 AM
      Subject: Re: delivery

      Hi Marc,

      I have received the Prima Donna, so far it works wonderfully !!!

      The auto bias is amazing!
      As well, all the other technologies implemented in the unit. Bringing tube technology into 2020 !

      Daniel

    19. Daniel

      —– Original Message —–
      From: Daniel
      To: Marc / DOGE overseas sales manager
      Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 7:22 AM
      Subject: Re: delivery

      Hi Marc,

      I have received the Prima Donna, so far it works wonderfully !!!

      The auto bias is amazing!
      As well, all the other technologies implemented in the unit. Bringing tube technology into 2020 !

      Daniel

    20. Oto Ekres

      The sound of the Prima Donna 88 is warm and precise. The Tekton Design – Double Impact speakers on Class A setting came alive and really unleashed the beauty of the sound these speakers are capable of producing. The Prima Donna with a nice DSD player and the Tekton Double Impact pair of speakers will sound like a high end system satisfying even the most demanding listener.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ1YpgjReb4

    21. Oto Ekres

      The sound of the Prima Donna 88 is warm and precise. The Tekton Design – Double Impact speakers on Class A setting came alive and really unleashed the beauty of the sound these speakers are capable of producing. The Prima Donna with a nice DSD player and the Tekton Double Impact pair of speakers will sound like a high end system satisfying even the most demanding listener.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ1YpgjReb4

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